Strange Things Happened...
- Nov. 29th, 2007 at 2:52 PM
In the last few days I have found some comments from Anonymous in my LJ. They are pretty nasty comments. So to the first I didn't reply but I leave it (it was in a very old post, so I was thinking no bad can arrive from it). But today I have found another two comments, always from anonymous: one again in the same post and was a pretty strong accuse to a book I read and the comment is against the author; in this particular case I don't know personally the writer, but I don't like they use my LJ to throw nastiness. The second comment is "pure" spam. So I have deleted all the three comments and signalated them as "spam". I write this post only to assure you that I have never before deleted a comment, even if from anonymous. But in this case I think I'm in my right to do so.
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"Yes. It was written by *me* several years ago and can be found on my website . I have contacted the publishers today to warn them to cease publication. They actually had the cheek to suggest that *I* had stolen the story. I am in contact with a lawyer and unless the publishers retract their statements and cease and desist from publication of my work under the name of this person, they won't have enough money to publish any more stolen stories after I have finished with them!>
Fourth Comment
"I can comment as fast as you can delete....
This book was written by me. The story was stolen and I intend to sue the publisher. If you are in any way connected to this theft, I suggest you remove this review promoting stolen goods, otherwise I will include you in my lawsuit.>
This last was unbelievable...
For third and fourth comment, the author should know that this blog is not the space to argue over this subject except the owner offers for it. It's sorry that the problem is her(I believe) own. First the author herself must resolve it legally. It's waste of time to leave here comments. If it's true, I hope the author will win the case and inform you it immediately. Isn't it reasonable?
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Elisa
Sometimes they do a search/replace to change the names to some other characters, to convert the story to some other fandom, in hopes that they're even less likely to be caught at it in the second fandom. Unfortunately for them, many fanfic readers are multi-fandom and do read a wide variety of stories, and someone will often recognize a story they read before in a different fandom under a different writer's name.
I don't find it at all unbelievable that, with the trend for people to file the serial numbers off their better fanfic and publish it as original fiction (which I have no problem with, obviously), one of the plagiarists I mentioned above might have moved away from stealing just for praise and applause and toward stealing for money, by grabbing someone else's fanfic, converting it into original fiction, and submitting it to a publisher. That is absolutely a believable possibility.
The viagra thing is clearly just comment spam -- I get that crap fairly regularly on my main LJ, and deleting it is all the attention it deserves. The plagiarism comments, though, might well be legitimate.
It sounds like the first comment is by a reader who read the original version of the story, and recognized the published, commercial version as a rip-off of that original version. The third and fourth comments claim to be by the author of the original version which was stolen. If that person is the true author of a book you reviewed, it's understandable that she/he is very angry at the plagiarist-thief getting attention for the story, including positive reviews. (To say nothing of whatever money they've gotten from the publication.) About the fourth comment, my guess is that, because you deleted the earlier comments, they're assuming you're in some sort of collusion with the thieving writer. If they found the review via a Google search and aren't familiar with your journal, they probably don't know you're using English as a foreign language and might not pick up on subtleties, so they're making false assumptions about your response (the deletions).
As the reviewer, you don't really deserve to be the target of her/his anger, since you obviously didn't know the story was stolen. But as a writer I can understand the anger, and the desire to get the word out that "Hey, this is my story!"
If this is a true accusation, though (and I don't see any reason within the comments to assume it's not), then this is an important issue. If the fanfic plagiarists are taking their theft up to the next level, and actually selling what they steal rather than just displaying it as their own, then that's something that needs attention. (And whether it's true or false, those three comments were definitely not spam.)
Angie
Angie
Elisa
Angie
In case you are interested, I discovered today that not only had someone stolen a story I wrote and published for free on the internet, but that they have commercially published the work. Heck, it's available on Amazon! When challenged by someone (not me) the publisher said that *I* was the person who had stolen the story off JJ Massa.
Obviously, I have informed the publisher of my intention to sue. I have all necessary evidence that this story was my creation.
I am so upset that I am, hopefully understandably, trying to track down all sellers and promoters of this stolen work to stop it in its tracks.
I have, however, been totally unfair in my posts to yourself and again apologise for my hasty and ill judged posts. I'm not usually so rude.
I'm sorry.
Elisa
The publisher has responded already by pulling the ebook off their website, so clearly they are worried. Presumably they can see that I would hardly be reacting like this if I wasn't telling the truth about the origin of the story.
Still, I was unforgivably rude to you and I appreciate your grace in accepting my apology.
I will advise you of the outcome of my lawsuit.
Amanda
http://web.archive.org/web/*sa_/http://w
http://web.archive.org/web/2004120421592
http://web.archive.org/web/2004121802553
Your story, and the listing of it in your updates section, was archived by the Wayback Machine in the above (last two) links - and they were date stamped. The first eight numbers in the last two links refer to the date archiving happened (yyyymmdd). Though not necessarily done on the date the files appeared on your website, the archiving of the story happened well before Massa's novel was first published, namely 12/18/2004. That's pretty damning.
Good luck with your suit. I hope all will be resolved and the emotional distress for you will be kept to a minimum.
~O.
I feel sorry for all the people who have been paying good money for 2 1/2 years for a story that has been available on-line for free since 2003.
Amanda (who will get the hang of this LJ thing eventually)
BTW, Amanda, if you want a silver lining and you yourself have ambitions to be published... if you want, once this is over, you can approach the publisher about writing something for them! After all, they've already published your stuff. :0)
A
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